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Post by matthewmiller on Oct 11, 2011 20:20:32 GMT -5
I would like to propose the formation of a Medical Support/Health and Wellness Working Group whose functions would include, but not be limited to: -securing and providing medical supplies -administering basic first aid -maintaining a working relationship with local emergency units to ensure service when necessary -providing training in basic first aid and street medic support for those interested -inviting wellness practitioners to assist in lending massage, meditation, and movement therapies, as well as holistic remedies for common ailments -providing comfort and support for any physical, mental, and/or emotional trauma sustained during the occupation -monitoring and assessing potential hazards and dangers as a precautionary means to ensuring the safety of all participants
I think that's all I can come up with at this time. Additionally, it is unlikely for me to participate in the occupation on the level that I would like to, however, I will make myself available and ready as best possible.
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Post by elena on Oct 12, 2011 10:00:34 GMT -5
I am interested in hosting group meditations, healing circles, and/or therapy groups
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Post by Yoga meditation selfcare on Oct 12, 2011 10:22:49 GMT -5
I was directed to this group to talk about the possibility of offering yoga to activists. I think this is a good fit with the Health and Wellness theme.
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Post by laurelyoung on Oct 12, 2011 22:23:39 GMT -5
Hey my name is Laurel Young.I am a MSW Social Worker . It was suggested to me by one of the facilitators at the last Assembly that the need for someone with Mental Health COunseling experience may be needed as they are encountering alot of people in the process of outreach who may have trauma issues. I am a mental health counselor and have experience with trauma, crisis intervention, and deescalation skills. I also have experience in conflict resolution. In addition I have vast experience in all areas of social work , especially with maginialized populations and those most affected by poverty and a comprehensive understanding of the social service system.I have experience ith outreach and safety issues therin. I definately would be part of this group.I am currently in the logistics/facilitation group
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Post by lpyles on Oct 14, 2011 7:56:02 GMT -5
Hi all-
I had posted the piece about yoga and meditation and wonder if there might be some interest in getting together at some point. In order to form our group as an official working group, we need to have met at least once in the real world and have at least 4 members. If anyone is interested in following up on the issue of health and wellness, let's do it. Solidarity, Loretta
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Post by matthewmiller on Oct 16, 2011 9:10:33 GMT -5
I would be interested in meeting to discuss the potential of a health and wellness group at some point soon in order to move forward as a working group. I think there are several great ideas circling around about how to lend support in the field and certainly ones health should not be overlooked. I will be joining with the GA tonight and may be able to meet after depending on if my son is in attendance or not. In Solidarity.
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Post by rebecca on Oct 16, 2011 21:00:52 GMT -5
Would this be the right working group to promote the formation of affinity groups within the occupation? Affinity groups help reduce the likelihood of trauma, and reduce the negative effects of traumatic events that may happen, by creating a structure for people to take care of each other in small groups. I'm interested in helping folks learn about this if they don't know.
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Post by laurelyoung on Oct 16, 2011 22:38:21 GMT -5
Excited that the proposal of this group was well-recieved by the GA tonight. Perhaps all that are interested in this working group could have a meeting prior to the next GA? I believe the next GA is on Friday evening.I like the idea of affinity groups but know little about them in this process. thoughts on a meeting? Rebecca it would be great if you could perhaps elaborate on the affinity group concept at the meeting?
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Post by dylan on Oct 16, 2011 22:42:19 GMT -5
I've acted as a street medic before and was trained by the Black Cross Health Collective. They post that they're training staff is on hiatus but their resources, including some guides and training outlines are still online: www.blackcrosscollective.org/
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Post by reubenshojin on Oct 17, 2011 9:43:18 GMT -5
As a meditation Practice Group Leader and dedicated Zen Buddhist, I'd be happy to help on the mindfulness and meditation front. I think the focus here is sufficiently different from the Ministry proposal to justify the presence of two working groups with a similar vector. I do not have any formal MBSR affiliation, or certifications outside of my Zen credentials, but I definately feel that there can, and should be some cross linking, if only so that spiritual concerns that cross into mental health, and vice versa, can be coordinated properly.
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Post by laurelyoung on Oct 17, 2011 10:25:28 GMT -5
Reuben, I agree with your statement. I think in the confines of this group since it is health and wellness should focus on mindfullness and meditation but can serve as a gateway if need be to the ministry spirituality group and in addition they can bridge to us if they have people with mental health concerns etc. I do have concerns who may be doing mental health counseling. I think this group should focus on health both physical and mental and alternative but spirituality should be seperate. I do feel like mindfulness and meditation fall under alternative health and well being. Just my thoughts. Again anyone interested in meeting before friday's GA? If we do perhaps we can present our ideas
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Post by lpyles on Oct 17, 2011 19:55:24 GMT -5
It's hard to separate out spirituality vs health/healing/mindfulness for me but I can see why people would want to separate them. If we do choose to keep the groups separate, we should certainly get the groups together and communicating up front (as others have mentioned). In terms of meeting, I could do Thursday morning anytime; Thursday between 5-6 and Friday b/w 3-4. And, I'm free Saturday afternoon and all day Sunday. If people want to meet at a time that I'm not available, it's no problem, please go ahead and meet. It would be great to become a working group and find a regular meeting time in the near future. This is really exciting and important work.
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Post by Emma on Oct 17, 2011 22:09:26 GMT -5
Ok... Sorry, I just posted something w/o having seen the other most recent posts in here. So reposting...
I don't think the spirituality group should be separated. Yoga comes from a spiritual tradition. Meditation is often part of spiritual practice, whether religious or not.
The Religion & Spirituality angle isn't for everyone, but nothing here is for everyone.
It seems like a false line to draw, and a difficult one for people to fall clearly on one side of or the other. If a religious professional is experienced at offering mental health counseling type help to people of various faiths w/o including religion in the process, but is also able to provide religious-based counseling for those who desire it, should that person attend two separate working groups? If we set up areas in the park, will we set up one area for religious meditation and one area for non-religious meditation, and facilitate them explicitly separately?
To me that seems ridiculous. This is not about forcing religion down anyone's throats. That can be said explicitly in anything this working group puts out, and it can be stuck to. This movement is so clearly not about forcing *anything* down anyone's throats, I don't think there would be any issue in keeping that consistent here.
I'd like to see the working groups moved together, and moved to the main working groups list on the boards so that we could have separate sub-forums like "meditation" or "classes" or "rituals" or "medical supplies donations" or whatever else we felt we needed to discuss. Then folks can pick and choose if they want to read and contribute around each issue.
If the group separates at all, I would think it should be around medic stuff vs everything else. But that also promotes a false dichotomy, because where does acupuncture or massage go? It's not bandaging wounds, but...
I've said my piece. I look forward to some clarity from the group about if we can join all this stuff vaguely together. It would be awfully helpful if we could figure out how & under what heading to move these topics into the realm of established Working Groups.
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Post by laurelyoung on Oct 17, 2011 23:58:21 GMT -5
My previous thoughts were based on the fact that two groups were proposed 1) medical/health and wellness and spirituality/ chaplainicy etc. I respect all of the proposed ideas and contributions and understand of course they are interrelated and fluid. I am confused as to who was discussing anyone shoving religion down anyones throats as I have seen no mention of such discussion in anyones posts? At any rate my ideas were basically ideas. And as like I said there were two groups and was just interested in clarity in working groups. My interest is merely to have all needs met so all participants and occupiers are provided the support they choose and need.
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Post by Andrew on Oct 18, 2011 10:59:22 GMT -5
I am an EMT and will gladly provide any aid I can
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Post by laurelyoung on Oct 18, 2011 22:00:01 GMT -5
Any thoughts on meeting before fridays GA, maybe 3 on friday? There is a calender tool availible but I am not sure how to use it but will look into it.
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Post by benbrucato on Oct 18, 2011 22:28:35 GMT -5
I had to skim quickly, so please excuse if this has been dealt with here or elsewhere.
I wanted to make sure some people in some WG is working on accessibility issues so that differently abled people can have some way to participate. This may be difficult to do now, but it should be a priority once we get there, to map out the location, and find safe, accessible ways for people who can't get around as easily as most of us to participate in a variety of things going on, including the GA meetings.
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Post by shage on Oct 19, 2011 5:53:33 GMT -5
please include me in this group. i have a several types of first aid training, and an active yoga and meditation practice, which I would be glad to study more with the intent of teaching. I also have extensive training in psychology - although my clinical training in that area is limited to pretty basic crisis counseling, this is another area where I have considered expanding my skills.
for the record, I'm also for keeping this a broad based working group at this point. and also for not excluding spirituality for those whom it is appropriate at a given time. to me, spirituality in psychology means that people have a deep need to address certain questions about the unknown, and experiences beyond the reach of current scientific understanding. We cannot deny people's need to address those questions. For all we know, a person could come out of that questioning agnostic, atheist, some traditional belief or blend of, or some totally unheard of new experiences. To deny people the right to ask questions about their spiritual experiences beliefs in the context of their well being, to me would be self defeating. We don't have to like their experiences, speculations, nor even find them relevant. However I hope we can eventually accept many of us may have the mindset of being well enough at a given time, to accept that others come to different tentative perspectives on these matters, and that it doesn't prevent us working together to achieve profound and wonderful things in our time together.
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Post by dylan on Oct 19, 2011 7:20:08 GMT -5
Can someone give me a one sentence description of this group?
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Post by lpyles on Oct 19, 2011 10:23:26 GMT -5
Laurel- 3 on Friday would be great. It would be great if you could post something on the calendar. We'll just meet at the park I assume? Also maybe someone can post an invite to the spiritualit/chaplaincy group? Not sure where they are at on forming a working group but west want to discuss merging. (sorry can't do some of these requests myself because I'm in all day meeting and typing from an iPod)
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