Albanius
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Post by Albanius on Oct 26, 2011 15:40:18 GMT -5
Hz: "I would suggest that specifics of wording is perhaps best handled by Media/PR, and that I acknowledge that it is understood by PR /Media that this march is being planned as stated above. ...provided the GA agrees with the plan." *twinkle* My 2c: statement presented to GA could be shorter, statement to public (and perhaps handouts if we can get them done) could be longer. Prof Spitz will bring a handout this evening which I haven't seen yet; I believe it will cover both Millionaires tax and Robin Hood tax. (She cannot get there Saturday afternoon.) IMO what is important is there is an action in Albany, that the GA statement be simple and clear enough to get consensus to do the action, and that strong statements are made at the action. But I am happy with Ben's current language.
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benbrucato
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Post by benbrucato on Oct 26, 2011 21:02:32 GMT -5
I would suggest that specifics of wording is perhaps best handled by Media/PR Will the public releases get run through the GA?
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Post by hz on Oct 26, 2011 21:38:13 GMT -5
These press releases are based on actions of the GA and therefore have already been 'run through' the GA.
The only thing PR does is create the wording, which is certainly not a viable task of dozens, and sometimes hundreds, of people collectively assembled at a meeting.
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The -only- reason I ran the first statement through the GA, was because I wanted to make sure that what I had come to understand were the universal concerns of the movement, were -in fact- the universal concerns. It was not my intent to actually craft the minutiae of the wording. The purpose did seem to veer a little off track, but we were corrected on a few points, one of which was that the group did not, as a whole, want to include a reference to 'capitalism.' And that is the important work of it.
As it is the statement that was created, has not been released as an official statement, but rather a resource that we consult when making other statements or announcements.
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benbrucato
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Post by benbrucato on Oct 26, 2011 22:13:39 GMT -5
Coming from someone who studies communications and the use of language, I think that leaving the crafting of statements to a small number of people and not running these through the GA are equal to the level of proposals not running through the GA. I am not very comfortable with this. I think proposals should come to the GA with the wording in tact. Then the proposal would be discussed both for the concept/action and the wording of the release. Otherwise, the entire public framing of the movement is passed off to an autonomous group that ends up exacting a level of sovereignty. Perhaps that would mean that WGs and individuals with proposals should try to meet virtually or in realspace with someone in PR first, but this won't always be feasible. I would prefer to have a chance to see everything before it's released, and would hope most others would too.
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Post by dylan on Oct 26, 2011 22:40:48 GMT -5
How do other occupy groups handle this?
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Albanius
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Post by Albanius on Oct 27, 2011 4:58:05 GMT -5
Who will present this to GA today, in Ben's absence? I can present it if necessary, using Ben's recent language: Occupy Albany is participating in a march from the encampment to the State Capitol on Saturday, October 29, at 2pm. This is part of an international day of action proposing a Robin Hood tax on financial transactions and currency trades. Trillions of dollars of easy money slosh around the global casino every day. These untaxed trades have contributed to the growing rift between the top 1% and the rest of us. This tax would slow down these transactions and provide many billions of dollars to fund social and environmental programs urgently needed by the 99%. This tax is endorsed by over a thousand leading economists worldwide, including Nobel Laureates, and over 800 parliamentarians and government officials from over 30 different countries.
I can present this if necessary but IMO it would be better to come from an active member of the DA WG. BTW, IMO the GA need only be asked to agree to the first two sentences, perhaps put in the future tense: Occupy Albany will participate in a march from the encampment to the State Capitol on Saturday, October 29, at 2pm. This is part of an international day of action proposing a Robin Hood tax on financial transactions and currency trades. The rest of the wording can be presented to the GA as motivation for the action statement, and used in public statements, with any modifications agreed to by Hezzie and Ben. If there is a block on the phrase "OA is participating" or "will participate" I can present as a substitute phrase "There will be a march from the OA encampment..."
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Post by denmarkvesey on Oct 27, 2011 7:44:57 GMT -5
these actions are fine but we need to be careful what we talk about on here
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benbrucato
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Post by benbrucato on Oct 27, 2011 8:57:17 GMT -5
I will not be able to be there today, as I have class until 5pm in Troy, and a huge stack of papers to grade by tomorrow. I was hoping I could pull it off, but being sick this past week has set me way back. I hope to be there quite a bit through the weekend.
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